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Friday, May 27, 2011

Has Nana finally lost it?


I was very surprised to read the accusation Nana made on her forum that I was a "coward" who blocked her from commenting here.  I have done no such thing.  In fact, I opened this blog to anonymous comments a few weeks ago and have not banned anyone thus far.  But just to be on the safe side, I checked just now and, sure enough, nobody is blocked and anonymous comments are still allowed.

I know that sometimes on this here "interwebs" comments don't always go through and fail to post, for whatever reason.  Perhaps Nana ran into an instance of one of those glitches.  I really don't know.  All I know is that the accusation she posted about me blocking her from commenting here is simply untrue.  I'm not going to take the harsh step of calling her a flat-out, bald-faced liar, though, since she may have been genuinely mistaken.  I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that she's a bit...confused...or paranoid...or delusional...

65 comments:

  1. my vote is for "all of the above"!!

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  2. Okay! We've heard from Larry, Moe, and now it's Curly's turn. We'll be waiting to hear from you!

    Cynthia :)

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  3. Glad to see you were able to post here without any problems, Cynthia. I just can't for the life of me figure out why Nana is having a problem posting, though. It's certainly not because of anything that I've done.

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  4. She is too engrossed with her family issues -- aka "mikeseesitall". It is hard to believe people would put all that personal stuff on the internet for everyone in the world to see.
    I think it would be embarrassing.

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  5. ITS CAUSE THAT CUNT IS A LIAR. BITCH CANT UTTER A WORD THAT IS TRUE, LIKE IT WOULD BURN HER SOLE. I THINK ITS HILARIOUS TO SEE THE ONE WHO HATES AND SPEWS ALL THINGS VILE TO BE ON THE RECEIVING END FOR A CHANGE.

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  6. Anonymous, it seems as though Nana has touched a nerve. It sounds like you are the one spewing hatred.

    I always find it amusing when people like you have to use vulgar words to express your feelings.

    It shows a lack of maturity and integrity; and doesn't say much for your character, either!

    Tex

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  7. To Anonymous at 8:33pm:

    In reference to your comment, "It is hard to believe people would put all that personal stuff on the internet for everyone in the world to see.
    I think it would be embarrassing."

    When a person is confident in themself, and it becomes necessary to reveal things about a family member to prevent future victims, embarrassment is no longer part of the equation.

    Be thankful that you do not have this type of problem to contend with.

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  8. Wow, Anonymous. Don't hold back...tell us how you REALLY feel!

    Seriously, though, I'd like to stay away from that kind of language here on CNL, so I'd appreciate it if you'd cool it with that. Thanks.

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  9. Glad to hear that, Cindy. I've always said that people just sound so ignorant when they talk like that. We adults should be able to express our feelings without sinking that low!

    I don't know why you haven't heard from Nana lately. She has been quite busy though. Her husband and her have been on a great diet losing lots of weight. They walk everywhere for exercise. She is also taking online courses, and between her job and young son, she stays quite busy.

    I'm quite proud of her!

    Cynthia :)

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  10. By the way Cindy, you need a new headline instead of Betty White saying the "s" word!!

    Cynthia :)

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  11. I'm not a prude, Cynthia. It's calling an opponent (Nana) the "c" word on CNL that I object to, no matter how much one might think she deserves it. It's a pragmatic preference - I simply don't want to give an indiscriminate shooter any ammunition - or an opportunity to falsely portray herself as a "victim."

    Nana has stated not once, but twice, that she couldn't post here and accused me of being a "coward" and banning her. Since I have done no such thing, I can't help but question the veracity of her statements and/or the limits of her cognitive ability.

    I'm glad to hear, for her family's sake, that Nana is once again gainfully employed.

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  12. Oh no, Cindy, I would definitely agree, you are far from being a "prude". I like Betty White as an actress, it's just the "s" word that appears so tacky. I've just always felt it so, unladylike to use such vulgar words. JMO

    Anyways, I don't know AN's reason for not being able to post, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with her cognitive ability, as you put it.

    Actually, it has been my understanding that AN has been gainfully employed for quite some time. I think the Census Bureau is known for it's frequent layoffs.

    Cynthia :)

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  13. Cindiloohoo said,

    "I'm not a prude, Cynthia. It's calling an opponent (Nana) the "c" word on CNL that I object to, no matter how much one might think she deserves it. It's a pragmatic preference - I simply don't want to give an indiscriminate shooter any ammunition - or an opportunity to falsely portray herself as a "victim."

    Nana has stated not once, but twice, that she couldn't post here and accused me of being a "coward" and banning her. Since I have done no such thing, I can't help but question the veracity of her statements and/or the limits of her cognitive ability.

    I'm glad to hear, for her family's sake, that Nana is once again gainfully employed."

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  14. Cynthia said:

    Oh no, Cindy, I would definitely agree, you are far from being a "prude". I like Betty White as an actress, it's just the "s" word that appears so tacky. I've just always felt it so, unladylike to use such vulgar words. JMO

    Anyways, I don't know AN's reason for not being able to post, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with her cognitive ability, as you put it.

    Actually, it has been my understanding that AN has been gainfully employed for quite some time. I think the Census Bureau is known for it's frequent layoffs.

    Cynthia :)

    Dearest Cynthia,

    I've heard how helpful one of the ACC posters has been lately, helping folks out with their English skills and all. Let me help you out since you clearly have such a weak grip on the English langauge and appropriate punctuation and really, from what they espouse on the ACC, deserve to be talked down to and ridiculed as much as possible.

    Your post, with some small improvement, would be:

    Oh no, Cindy, I would definitely agree; you are far from being a "prude." I like Betty White as an actress. It's just the "s"-word [or perhpas "'s'-word"?]that appears so tacky. I've just always felt it to be so unladylike to use such vulgar words. JMO

    Anyway, I don't know AN's reason for not being able to post, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with her cognitive ability as you put it.

    Actually, it has been my understanding that AN has been gainfully employed for quite some time. I think the Census Bureau is known for its frequent layoffs.

    Cynthia :)

    I can't help but wonder if one who gets frequently laid off from the Census Bureau collects unemployment payments. If one were to be receiving unemployment payments while gainfully employed, surely they would be guilty of some sort of fraud. I'll have to think about how to reconcile all that in my head.

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  15. That would be "language", I always find it particularly amusing when someone spells a word incorrectly when correcting others.

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  16. For clueless people, if the Census Bureau lays someone off but they have a return to work date, they are still considered an employee but temporarily laid off, so they indeed qualify to collect unemployment. Frankly, someone's financial situation is none of anyone's business.

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  17. How can anyone compare ACC with CCC? A few weeks ago someone mentioned the hits ACC was getting along with new members. What a joke. I've been reading ACC for months and find it to be somewhat stupid. Sounds like a bunch of school kids fussing back and forth. One member is posting all about God while another member wants to open a can of woopass on somebody and goes as far as putting his address on a public forum. That is one smart dude. He been trying for a while to track some down using IP addresses. That forum has nothing at all to offer but a bunch of trash talk by a group of people who have nothing better to do than feel sorry for themselves. I'll keep reading the ACC because I want to see how far stupid can go. Here is hoping to read this comment on the ACC.

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  18. OKAY, THIS WAS TOO FUNNY!

    SOMEONE CORRECTING MY GRAMMAR AND PUNCTUATION???

    HERE IS WHAT THEY WROTE:

    Dearest Cynthia,

    I've heard how helpful one of the ACC posters has been lately, helping folks out with their English skills and all. Let me help you out since you clearly have such a weak grip on the English langauge and appropriate punctuation and really, from what they espouse on the ACC, deserve to be talked down to and ridiculed as much as possible.

    Your post, with some small improvement, would be:

    It's just the "s"-word [or perhpas "'s'-word"?]


    ARE YOU SERIOUS?? WHAT KIND OF DRUGS ARE YOU ON??

    AND BY THE WAY, THAT WOULD BE SPELLED, "LANGUAGE", NOT, LANGAUGE!

    PS BY THE WAY, I PUT ALL OF MY WORDS THIS TIME IN CAPITAL LETTERS.

    ROTFL, CYNTHIA

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  19. Your grammar was very poor, Cynthia. There is no such word as "anyways" --- no "s". And the ones on the ACC who are so critical of the grammar of others need some lessons themselves!
    But the most hysterical part of the ACC is the heading "Please be respectful". AN and her kin need to practice what they preach.

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  20. ...and her kin, indeed.

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  21. Gold star for catching "language"!

    OH, AND IT WASN'T IN ALL CAPS.

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  22. AN has again changed a post that was originally written as "Amy's drunk again". AN quickly rushed in and changed all of the references to Amy's obvious inebriation and replaced Amy's name with Kelley. Amy is obviously drunk and making an ass of herself, but AN can't permit her one and only non-sister ally to be criticized, so she replaced the name.

    AN: Liar, liar, pants on fire - you should be ashamed of your deceit. Delete it if you want to, block all anonymous posts (as you already have again), but changing other people's posts is even more deceptive than your 21+ screen names. Right, Chuckles and Cynthia?

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  23. Seems to me AN just Gotcha again Ass. Stay off her forum you little prick, no one wants you there. Don't you get it???

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  24. Hmmm. ASS - why I believe that is Amy's initials. I can tell she is drunk by her posts this evening on AN, but has she actually already made an ass of herself again? Has the stage show started? Did she indeed bring out the "awesome boots" she wanted everyone to know about? She must have, for AN to go in and shut it down again!

    AN - I know you can be pretty thick-headed, but surely you realize that I couldn't care less what you want.

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  25. Too funny, AN! You are the woman!!!!! I guess she got you....Observer.....hahahahahahahaha

    Observer, you really need to stay off all those drugs, they are messing up your mind!!

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  26. Now now hutt...I mean hush your mouth. You care way more about AN than you want to let on...you know how I know that, because she is so far under your skin you couldn't find her on an Xray. You lose, get over it.

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  27. WHO REALLY CARES???? I CERTAINLY DON'T!!!

    Your grammar was very poor, Cynthia. There is no such word as "anyways"


    CYNTHIA :)

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  28. Has the stage show started? Yes, Observer, and you apparently are the drugged up, drunk clown, performing!

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  29. Did you find my words slurpy, or did my typed words just sound slurred when you read them? lol
    Maybe both? Amy

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  30. Amy, re-read your flurry of posts on AN's forum starting around 10:45 till a little after 11:00 last night. I'm not sure what your substance choice was for over indulgence yesterday evening, or exactly what your current mental status is, but that is not the work of an organized mind. Don't kid yourself. Observer sounded on target before Nana jumped in with her changes.

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  31. The last comment I posted was at 10:37 p.m. Amy

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  32. I'm not going to go back and double check it, but if that is true, then perhaps Nana is playing her fake postings games with you too. I know of at least two other posters she has done that to. Could explain why your comments sounded less than lucid.

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  33. Quote:

    "I'm not going to go back and double check it"

    Sure.....you won't....hahahaha

    Observer was up to his/her, sleezy, sicko, posting of lies, again.

    Quite pitiful! Oh sicko, are you going to be back on the ACC tonight??

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  34. ok -- time out! I am confused. Are there 3 daughters or 4?? Lisa (aka Abbysnana); Gail (aka Grammy); Connie and another one who is a teacher? Or are there only 3??? Also, is Cynthia also Gail?? Were only 2 supposedly abused or all of them? This is some soap opera; but the characters are getting bungled -- someone enlighten me please!

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  35. It is so much worse than a soap opera...it's sick.

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  36. Just curious, why do you wish to be enlightend?
    Do you take pleasure in other people's pain?
    Why do you care how many sisters there are, or how many of them were, or were not abused?
    No, it's not a soap opera. Those are made up by writers with an imagination.

    This family has suffered greatly because of a man who would never admit his sickness, and get help.

    These are sisters who have tried their entire lives, to make the lives of their families, happy ones, something they never had.

    These sisters are not characters in a story. They are real people who deserve happiness.

    And they will continue to search for that happiness because they are simply tired of the past that they could not prevent, being part of the present.

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  37. If she does not want people to be curious, she shouldn't post that stuff for the world to see. There are ways to deal with things without throwing it out on the web. Nobody should be silent about abuse but opening up your entire family for strangers is just wrong. I see her post with the details about abuse has been removed from ACC. I am sure there is at least 1 sister that is thankful for that. Not all of the sisters want their life discussed and opened up to the general public. What she has done is cruel. What her father has put out on the web is also cruel. I wouldn't question if the abuse actually happened or not. AN is not a child anymore, she is an adult. She has not handled this like an adult. She has made a circus out of her and her sisters personal lives and invited the world in to watch. The details about how her father abused her daughter should NEVER have been put on the web. I feel so sorry for the sister that has dealt with her life and tried to move on. She does not deserve to have all this turned into a public war.

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  38. Who do you think you are? You have no right to tell anyone what they should and should not put on their own forum. People deal with things in different ways. There are some therapist who would think this was a very healthy way to deal with these types of issues. All the sisters but the eldest (who is not physically or mentally able to handle anything) were in agreement that this was necessary to be discussed if only to help one child OR adult out there who has been living with secrets of abuse. Get off that high horse of yours and stop using your hatred and jealousy towards AN to spew your hateful judgments. All three sisters post to the ACC, just because one does not use her own name does not mean she is embarrassed or ashamed of anything. Anyone that is not comfortable with the subject of abuse should just do themselves a favor and stay off the ACC. I do not understand these sanctimonious posters who presume to be so much wiser than everyone. These sisters are brave and admired for all they have endured. Don't try to shame them, they were the victims, now they are the conquerers. My advice to you is find something to do that makes you a little less judgmental, help someone who needs your kind of advice, they sure do not.

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  39. Touched a nerve huh? I say "carry on" brave sisters! It makes for some sick but entertaining reading. Jealousy and hatred for AN???????? sick, sick, sick, sick, sick, sick

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  40. I feel so sorry for you. shame shame shame shame shame shame

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  41. BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THIS POST, IT WILL HAVE TO BE DIVIDED INTO, TWO. THE SECOND HALF WILL BE UNDER, "CONTINUED".

    Quote: "If she does not want people to be curious, she shouldn't post that stuff for the world to see."

    Well, we can all thank, (Mike sees it all), for that, when he illegally hacked into AN's email, and made it his focus, to bring her down; without success, I should say.

    Here is a couple of questions for you. Why does it matter to you what is revealed about "their", family? Is it possibly because YOU are a member of that family?

    Let me correct you. The DETAILS of what happened to AN's daughter was not written. If it had been, than the visual of it, would have turned your stomach. I think that AN handled that with much tact!

    Let me enlighten you. ALL of the sisters have tried to move on with their lives. Matter of fact, the two sisters who Ron has chosen to blatantly persecute, are the ones who have given him many chances to prove himself changed, to no avail. One more thing, if what they wanted, was publicity, they would have had him arrested years ago. Instead, they chose to protect all concerned, and handle it privately as to protect other family members, and their families.

    Some people would say that keeping things hush, hush, is just giving the perpretator an opportunity to find more victims to abuse. His daughters ASKED him to stay off of the subject of child abuse while he was pursuing Amy, with a vengence. His involvement in the subject of a little girl being molested was hitting too close to home. But instead, he continued on, posting these things on AN's forum, not giving any thought or concern how his words were affecting his daughters.

    Do you really believe that just because you become an adult, that suddenly all of your childhood memories are just going to disappear? If your answer to that is yes, than you apparently have not been subjected to abuse of this type. Do your research. Here is some information for "your reading entertainment", as you put it:

    > Effects of Child Abuse on Adults: Childhood Abuse
    No one escapes childhood abuse unharmed. "Many abuse survivors are highly competent in their professional and personal lives, compensating for the adverse effects of an abusive childhood until some added stress is introduced, perhaps a physical illness, birth of a child, or the death of a family member."11 Some children may seem resilient to abuse, some even becoming overachievers 8,11, but eventually the history of abuse catches up with them.

    Compared with people without a history of childhood abuse, adults with a history of childhood abuse are more likely to have: A partner with a substance abuse problem; Anxiety disorders; Chronic head, face or pelvic pain; Eating disorders; Musculoskeletal complaints; Depression; Gastrointestinal distress or symptoms; Asthma or other respiratory ailments; Obesity, Eating disorders; Insomnia; Panic; Sexual dysfunction; Substance abuse; Suicidal ideation or behavior; Pseudo-neurologic symptoms (dizziness, etc.); Unintended pregnancy; Self-injury; Abuse their own children.

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  42. CONTINUED:

    Let me enlighten you about something else. Ron was approached by one of his daughers MANY years ago to meet with them as a family, to persuade him to get some help for his sicknesses, but he refused. He insisted that he didn't need any help from a therapist and that he would not even be willing to get together with all of his daughters, and their mother, at one time. You see, they did not have to handle things privately, but for the sake of their families, the attempt was made.

    So sadly, soon after finding out what he had done to his grand-daughter, their only brother died suddenly, adding more heartbreak to these sister's lives.

    Be non-compassionate if you want, but I'm telling you that None of these daughters, or grand-daughter deserved what was done to them. Shame on you for accusing AN for turning this situation into a circus. She was one of the last sisters to be abused. It has left lasting scars on all of them.

    The last thing I have to say is, follow AN's advice and just stay off of the ACC if you don't want to hear about the subject of Child Abuse. Everyone should be an advocate to protect children.

    They may no longer be children, but the scars have been there since childhood, and they won't go away.

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  43. This is really sick! Don't you all have anything better to do with your life than discuss child abuse and spread hatred amoung yourselves? What does ACC stand for anyway, All Crimes Commented? If some one wanted to find a forum about all counties chatter all they would read is the latest on child abuse and how family seems to hate one another. It's sad and way beyond being a circus. You all need to find a therapist or some one to help you get over the pain and suffering you endure every day. Life is too short to be living this way. Amy and AN need to get a real life and get over the past instead of bringing up the same old news that happened many years ago. They act like they are the only ones in the world with this problem. There are doctors and therapist out there that can help. Get some help and lose the hate, if you don't it'll only eat you alive.

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  44. Have been looking at this whole mess, including the Mike sees it all, the Ron Cox messenger site and ACC. I feel sorry for the victims of the child abuser. AN and her sisters don't realize how weird some of their posts come across because their sense of what is normal has been warped way way WAY out of proportion by having been victimized by a monster. We knew their was strange nuttiness...maybe sociopathic insanity going on when a person comes on and writes stuff like 'everyone is wrong about God except me'...but we could scarcely imagine how bad it was. Probably, it's even worse in reality than what we see on the internet.His case needs to be turned over to the police. This is all more disturbing because we know this family has connections into police departments. Just makes me want to move out of Jeff...I can tell you that.

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  45. Instead of posting so much on the internet, I think they should look for a good therapy group. I just don't see how it helps anyone to post all this for the whole world to see.
    I hope they get help.

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  46. Okay, so everyone has had their say and opinion, why don't you ALL move on. Let it go. Stay off the forum. Stay out of their lives. Stop commenting, seems you have the sick need to keep it going. geesh.

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  47. So anyone who was abused as a child is some kind of nut case psychopath now? I guess Oprah is psycho, she was sexually abused and she discusses it on National TV, so is Roseann, goodness she had the nerve to admit it too. And a Boy Called It, he had the audacity to write books about all his abuse. All these "victims" need to just keep their disgusting abuses to themselves, we don't want to read all that. Those girls probably did something to deserve it to. How old were they, maybe they seduced their dad, who knows. They are all a bunch of nuts anyway, I say let us continue to degrade them cause it makes us feel so much mightier and better, don't you think???

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  48. To avoid confusion, below is the comment I would like to address:

    "So anyone who was abused as a child is some kind of nut case psychopath now?"

    That's not a accurate assessment of what people are saying. I don't know about the other sisters, but it is obvious that Lisa Smith uses her blog and forum as a platform to be mean and dishonest. It is difficult to feel compassion for someone who is so ugly to anyone who disagrees with her.

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  49. If AN thinks her blog will help other victims she is crazier than I thought. Someone that has suffered true abuse would read that hate filled blog and run for the hills. It would be enough to scare them silent forever. I have problems believing what she says for 2 reasons. The 1st is because of her history of lies and cruelty. The 2nd is because of all the things she has proven herself to be, I have never thought of her as a careless mother. She has always seemed to be the type that would fight fire for her children. Supposedly she and her sisters were abused by their father and had such a horrible traumatic childhood. She says he refused any type of help. Does it make sense that a fiercely protective mother would leave her young daughter with a man that had abused her and her sisters? A man that refused to get help for his problems would seem to still have that problem. I can't see AN leaving her daughter with him if he was an abuser. She is too protective of her children. It hasn't been all that long ago that she seemed to be on great terms with her father. I agree with the poster that said "It is difficult to feel compassion for someone who is so ugly to anyone who disagrees with her". I will add that it is also difficult to believe someone that strikes out in the most cruel ways when someone disagrees with her. She has slandered so many people that one has to wonder if her dad isn't just the newest target. Sexual abuse is a painful subject not to be taken lightly. It is also an accusation than can be used to destroy people even if it is untrue.

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  50. I have followed Lisa Smith from the beginning and she defends her position just like anyone else would. You are no one's judge and neither am I, but people in glass houses should not throw stones. I am not sure she would want you to feel compassion for her, I have never got the impression she feels sorry for herself. She has come across as someone who fights to the end for what she believes in. I have disagreed with her many many times and she has never gotten ugly with me. Sounds to me like you have a hangup with her and nothing will ever change your mind. Just stay away from her, pretty simple huh.

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  51. I tell you what, since you seem to have all the answers. Why don't you ask the other sisters. Email Connie, or Gail or how about Jean. Ask them if their was sexual and physical, not to mention mental abuse from their father. If you truly believe they are just targeting an innocent man, you go ahead and believe that. Wouldn't surprise me none because you have come across in every one of your posts as the mean and cruel person you are accusing AN of being. You are heartless and uncaring. Shut your mouth about things you know nothing about. Don't talk about AN daughter unless you know her and what she experienced or why or how. Let this go, you just keep on and on, what the heck is your problem. You have to jump on this blog, that has nothing to do with AN and you just keep pushing. What the heck is your problem. We get it. You don't like her. You think she is cruel and mean and vile. We get it. So what??? No one knows who YOU are so you could very well be the molester himself. So..do us all a favor, shut up or put up.

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  52. Someone above made a very good point - if Lisa Smith and her sisters had been molested and abused by their father, how in God's good name could she ever leave her own daughter in his care? I don't care how much I wanted to go to school, or how convenient grandparent babysitters can be - I would never even consider it.

    Certainly makes the accusations of molestation and abuse questionable.

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  53. Goodness! I only posted 2 times out of the 50 something posts! Just because it says "anonymous" does NOT mean it is the same poster! After all your post say "anonymous" too. I don't get it. You post publicly so do you or do you NOT want people to discuss it? Maybe you only want the people that support you to discuss it?

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  54. The thing I find sad about all of this is that if the abuse was real she has let the abuser win. It is obvious that he is still in control. It seems as though AN's every thought is about this. Instead of being happy and productive she is being eaten alive by it. The best revenge is a good life and hers appears to be miserable and shallow. Oh, this is my 3rd post by the way!

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  55. It seems like AN doesn't really care what any of you have to say, I can't even get her to come on here and defend herself. She said she posted her final comments about it on the forum, and as far as she was concerned it was over. I guess some of you just can't let it go, you must have pretty boring lives if all you have to do is speculate about her life. Kinda pathetic huh. I'm done.

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  56. Good! Now maybe we can get back to discussing it without your input! She obviously wanted it discussed or she wouldn't have tossed it out there for the world to read.

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  57. You are the ultimate of losers.

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  58. Sorry but that title was taken LONG ago by AN.

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  59. Everytime I check this blog you are only ever talking about AN. You people are obsessed with her and her life. why you read the forum? You all sound like jilted ex's or something. The jelousy everyone on here has for that lady is resounding. Get a life.

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  60. Ha Ha Ha You couldn't stand it that we quit talking about it could you? There hadn't been a post on here for almost 18 hours so you just had to stir it up again!!! LMAO

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  61. Gossip...

    Three preachers are a boat far from land. They decide they are going to confess their shortcomings.
    One asks another, 'What is something that you have a problem with?'
    The first one says, 'Well, I have a problem with alcohol. I like to take to the bottle sometimes.'
    The second one says, 'Well, I have a problem with lust. I desire every woman I see.'
    One of the others asks the third one, 'Well, what is something that you have a problem with?'
    The third preacher replies, 'Gossip, and I can't wait to get back to shore!'

    Ha Ha Ha Now that's something to laugh about!!!!

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  62. Good one! It goes to show that even "Men of God" like gossip.

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  63. James 3:

    5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

    6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

    7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:

    8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

    9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

    10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

    11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

    12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

    13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

    14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

    15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.

    16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

    17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

    18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

    GOSSIP IS A BAD THING, NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!

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