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Friday, December 24, 2010
Wednesday, December 8, 2010
I'm Tired
I can't embed this video (there's a major joke in there somewhere), yet I can link to it (ditto).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pmpgrYQgs
My friends, I'm tired...
Wednesday, November 17, 2010
Tribute To Mrs. HT
I can wash out 44 pairs of socks and have 'em hangin out on the line
I can starch & iron 2 dozens shirts 'fore you can count from 1 to 9
I can scoop up a great big dipper full of lard from the drippins can
Throw it in the skillet, go out & do my shopping, be back before it melts in the pan
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, I'll say it again
I can rub & scrub this old house til it's shinin like a dime
Feed the baby, grease the car, & powder my face at the same time
Get all dressed up, go out and swing til 4 a.m. and then
Lay down at 5, jump up at 6, and start all over again
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, I'll say it again
If you come to me sickly you know I'm gonna make you well
If you come to me all hexed up you know I'm gonna break the spell
If you come to me hungry you know I'm gonna fill you full of grits
If it's lovin you're likin, I'll kiss you and give you the shiverin' fits
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, I'll say it again
I can stretch! a green black dollar bill from here to kindom come!
I can play the numbers pay the bills and still end up with some!
I got a twenty-dollar gold piece says there ain't nothing I can't do
I can make a dress out of a feed bag and I can make a man out of you
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, I'll say it again
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, and that's all.
Thursday, November 11, 2010
Veterans Day - American Anthem
Let me know in my heart
When my days are through
America
America
I gave my best to you
When my days are through
America
America
I gave my best to you
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
Thanks, AN
A big thank you to AN for warning the author of a comment on her blog that was threatening to another blogger - namely, me.
AN, in all of our "wars" I have never addressed you by your real name, even after you "outed" yourself. And I have never posted any likeness of you other than your icon or given any personal "real life" info about you that I might have had access to - and never would. Like me, you have a family and whatever our differences are, the safety of our family - yours, mine, anyone's - comes first.
The biggest problem I've had lately with you is that you posted a picture of me (not my icon) on one of your sites, linked to it through an “anonymous” comment on someone else's blog, and actually posted with it the name of the street I live on with a warning to children not to trick or treat there because I might eat them! (Once again, I've NEVER posted an actual picture of you or any member of your family - anywhere - and I've never listed any personal info such as where you live or referred to you by anything other than your screen name). To my mind, AN, you might as well have publically accused me of being a child molester. I would NEVER harm a child, as I'm sure you wouldn't. In fact, children on my street know to go to "Miss Cindi" if they're near to my house and feel they're being threatened, (i.e., yahoos who let their untrained, non-socialized dogs run loose). Goofing around with screen names, cartoon icons, and "blog wars" is one thing...but that "warning," in my opinion, was completely out of line. Mock my screen persona with all your "gunza blazing," as I have done to you...but let's keep it between ourselves and other adults who knowingly and willingly choose to engage in "internet battle."
AN, in all of our "wars" I have never addressed you by your real name, even after you "outed" yourself. And I have never posted any likeness of you other than your icon or given any personal "real life" info about you that I might have had access to - and never would. Like me, you have a family and whatever our differences are, the safety of our family - yours, mine, anyone's - comes first.
The biggest problem I've had lately with you is that you posted a picture of me (not my icon) on one of your sites, linked to it through an “anonymous” comment on someone else's blog, and actually posted with it the name of the street I live on with a warning to children not to trick or treat there because I might eat them! (Once again, I've NEVER posted an actual picture of you or any member of your family - anywhere - and I've never listed any personal info such as where you live or referred to you by anything other than your screen name). To my mind, AN, you might as well have publically accused me of being a child molester. I would NEVER harm a child, as I'm sure you wouldn't. In fact, children on my street know to go to "Miss Cindi" if they're near to my house and feel they're being threatened, (i.e., yahoos who let their untrained, non-socialized dogs run loose). Goofing around with screen names, cartoon icons, and "blog wars" is one thing...but that "warning," in my opinion, was completely out of line. Mock my screen persona with all your "gunza blazing," as I have done to you...but let's keep it between ourselves and other adults who knowingly and willingly choose to engage in "internet battle."
Saturday, October 23, 2010
GOODBYE CRUEL CCC WORLD!!!
Ontarget Quits CCC - Whines About It On Wife's Blog
Either unable or unwilling to put on his "big boy panties," and accept a warning from the moderators, Ontarget has taken the extreme measure of closing his CCC account and posting his furious "Farewell" letter on his wife's blog.
Someone managed to capture the moment on video:
UPDATE: Abbysnana is accusing Chopperwoman of comparing Ontarget to Charles Manson on the Bat-Blog. This is NOT true. Someone anonymously posted that comparison. Chopperwoman did say she was laughing about someone comparing Ontarget to Charles Manson - but that's probably because the comparison is so ridiculously off base.
By his "cut and run" actions of closing his CCC account and then whining about it on Abbysnana's blog, Ontarget has shown that he actually compares more closely to Monty Python's "Brave Sir Robin," than to anyone else.
When danger reared its ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled
Yes, brave Ontarget turned about
And gallantly he chickened out
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Ontarget
Either unable or unwilling to put on his "big boy panties," and accept a warning from the moderators, Ontarget has taken the extreme measure of closing his CCC account and posting his furious "Farewell" letter on his wife's blog.
Someone managed to capture the moment on video:
UPDATE: Abbysnana is accusing Chopperwoman of comparing Ontarget to Charles Manson on the Bat-Blog. This is NOT true. Someone anonymously posted that comparison. Chopperwoman did say she was laughing about someone comparing Ontarget to Charles Manson - but that's probably because the comparison is so ridiculously off base.
By his "cut and run" actions of closing his CCC account and then whining about it on Abbysnana's blog, Ontarget has shown that he actually compares more closely to Monty Python's "Brave Sir Robin," than to anyone else.
When danger reared its ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled
Yes, brave Ontarget turned about
And gallantly he chickened out
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Ontarget
Monday, October 18, 2010
Elect the Willfully Ignorant!
And while we're at it, let's hire fry cooks to run our nuclear nukular facilities...
Saturday, October 9, 2010
Anniversary
For my husband. Today is our anniversary and this is our song. Times certainly got rough, but we never gave up.
Friday, October 8, 2010
Saturday, October 2, 2010
Monday, September 27, 2010
Time Machine
The Open Road London (1927)
London was the final stop in a marathon journey around Britain filmed as a series of cinema travelogues. Pioneering filmmaker Claude Friese-Greene brought these picture-postcard scenes to life with a specially-devised colour film process.
London was the final stop in a marathon journey around Britain filmed as a series of cinema travelogues. Pioneering filmmaker Claude Friese-Greene brought these picture-postcard scenes to life with a specially-devised colour film process.
Wednesday, September 15, 2010
Tuesday, August 31, 2010
Monday, August 30, 2010
Friday, August 27, 2010
Saturday, August 21, 2010
Tuesday, August 10, 2010
Friday, August 6, 2010
WOW! ABBYSNANA DISSES POPPY'S "PACKAGE"!!!
I saw a post AN made about my video series on HT’s blog, telling him she had the “real story” on her blog and decided to check it out. What I saw…well it blew my mind! Here are the key points she made that absolutely shocked me once I did a little research:
…I actually kidnapped CLH and J and drugged them and reprogrammed their mind into thinking it was actually the other two that were kidnapped. They were wrong to assume I had the balls of the CCC mods when in fact, while I held them captive, I actually proceeded to go into their homes and steal the balls of their significant others, only to find out they were already gone!
…I had to drug them again and finally gave the balls to Pesty to deliver back to their poor clueless spouses who had been doing the dishes, scubbing their toilets and mopping the floors while their "wives" spent all their time on the computer trying to be noticed by someone, anyone that would listen to their outlandish tales of someone trying to "impersonate" them or AN trying to "take over the Male Members of the CCC"...silly ladies.
…when J and CLH realize their spouses are real men again and insist that their wives start acting their ages and concentrate on more important stuff like running the family household instead of their mouths...
So basically what AN is saying here is that the more time a woman spends posting on internet blogs and forums, the more likely that her significant other has lost his balls!
So I decided check the numbers…
Today at 1:10 p.m. on the CCC, the number stats for posting are as follows for myself, Jules and AN:
Me: 80
Jules: 57
Abbysnana: 351
Wow! It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that, by her own standard of “time spent posting on internet forum/blogs by wife = likelihood of husband being ball-less,” Poppy must be significantly lacking in the “package” department! I’m really shocked, folks, that AN would post such a thing on the internet. Poor Poppy! The shame, the humiliation, the violation of trust! AN has dealt out some pretty low blows before, but never in my wildest dreams could I imagine that she would turn on Poppy like that! Poor guy. He has my sympathy.
…I actually kidnapped CLH and J and drugged them and reprogrammed their mind into thinking it was actually the other two that were kidnapped. They were wrong to assume I had the balls of the CCC mods when in fact, while I held them captive, I actually proceeded to go into their homes and steal the balls of their significant others, only to find out they were already gone!
…I had to drug them again and finally gave the balls to Pesty to deliver back to their poor clueless spouses who had been doing the dishes, scubbing their toilets and mopping the floors while their "wives" spent all their time on the computer trying to be noticed by someone, anyone that would listen to their outlandish tales of someone trying to "impersonate" them or AN trying to "take over the Male Members of the CCC"...silly ladies.
…when J and CLH realize their spouses are real men again and insist that their wives start acting their ages and concentrate on more important stuff like running the family household instead of their mouths...
So basically what AN is saying here is that the more time a woman spends posting on internet blogs and forums, the more likely that her significant other has lost his balls!
So I decided check the numbers…
Today at 1:10 p.m. on the CCC, the number stats for posting are as follows for myself, Jules and AN:
Me: 80
Jules: 57
Abbysnana: 351
Wow! It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that, by her own standard of “time spent posting on internet forum/blogs by wife = likelihood of husband being ball-less,” Poppy must be significantly lacking in the “package” department! I’m really shocked, folks, that AN would post such a thing on the internet. Poor Poppy! The shame, the humiliation, the violation of trust! AN has dealt out some pretty low blows before, but never in my wildest dreams could I imagine that she would turn on Poppy like that! Poor guy. He has my sympathy.
Thursday, August 5, 2010
Sunday, August 1, 2010
Latest Entry In HT=MC Series On Hold
Unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond my control (work), I will have to put off the release of "In A Nutshell" until some time this coming week, as I've had to halt production for the time being in order to fulfill my duties as a wage slave.
Thursday, July 22, 2010
Saturday, July 17, 2010
Thursday, July 15, 2010
IS HOOSIER TAXPAYER THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE?
Well, Granny, I’ve had time to really think about the events that have unfolded over the last few weeks and I’m convinced now more than ever that HT has been “programmed” just like a “Manchurian Candidate” for nefarious purposes. Just bear with me now and let’s take a look at the sequence of events:
1. A certain A.B. Nana is banned from the CCC; a person who has been a long time, avid foe of HT and HT’s friends, a person who took to “stalking” HT to the point that HT actually once told her on the CCC to, “stay the hell off of my blog!”
2. Shortly thereafter, “The Banned She,” actually shows up on HT’s blog – and HT welcomes her!!! I try to run her off, but HT seems to be, strangely, okay with her staying!!! And, most telling of all, after the appearance of A.B. Nana, HT never mentions Tammy again!!!
3. The very next post HT makes to the Bat-Blog is a very weird story about his personal experience with, “alien abduction.”
4. Now here comes the part that breaks my heart – After a post welcoming visitors from The Netherlands to the Bat-Blog, HT’s next post is “Where have all my flowers gone?” Meaning you, me and Jules. I feel that he had already been subjected to an initial round of programming by A.B. Nana, but it hadn’t yet completely “taken” and he was crying out to us for help! I feel so stupid and guilty. I NEVER should have chosen to go Galt at that critical moment – I KNEW A.B. Nana was trouble!!!
5. A few not-out-of-the ordinary posts later, HT posts about GG leaving her position as a mod on the CCC, praising her and letting her know that she is always welcome on the Bat-Blog (I believe that HT was not the real author of this or any subsequent postings on the Bat-Blog, including those of “Mrs. HT,” until his “rescue” from the kidnappers). I believe this was posted for the purpose of deflecting suspicion – if “HT” hadn’t remarked on his friend Granny leaving the CCC, it would be VERY suspicious, indeed.
6. HT posts “Gone Fishing” on the Bat-Blog.
7. “Mrs. HT” suddenly appears on the Bat-Blog, telling everyone that HT has been “kidnapped,” giving lengthy details not only of the “ransom” communications, complete with picture, but also personal medical information about HT (“prescription cannabis”).
8. “Mrs. HT” starts posting on the CCC using HT’s account. Since it is an “emergency,” and because HT is beloved by so many, no one questions this.
9. “Mrs. HT” posts the “Right Wing Cartel Is Responsible” post, claiming that the “authorities” have given her this information. Once again, a complete diversion. In the first place, not one of the people she mentioned would have either the:
a. guts,
b. brains,
c. or reason to undertake such an operation. HT’s candidacy was a long shot, grassroots, people-powered candidacy. Firmly entrenched, “good ol’ boy” politicians and their political operatives simply don’t take such a candidacy seriously…until, too late and against all odds, it triumphs!!! But those cases are, sadly, few and far between. So I don’t think any of them would undertake such an operation. I could be wrong, but my intuition points to a much more simple and obvious suspect. This wasn’t a politically motivated crime, except in the sense that political materials were used as a tool in the operation, both as a mechanism to “brainwash” HT and to throw suspicion elsewhere. This was personal.
At this point we also see “Mrs. HT” thanking a mysterious “The Hood Hunts In A Pack,” for their “help” with the “investigation.” This THHIAP seems to be mainly focused on stoking fear of a certain, “CCC Cartel,” the existence of which has not been proven by even one iota of factual information or even demonstrated as an authentic conspiracy theory, as evidenced by a complete lack of YouTube videos on the subject. “Mrs. HT” also berates long time, true friend Chopper Woman: “Chopper how could you even insinuate HT was off with our neighbor Tammy at a time like this. I don’t find this the least bit funny.” I believe the “Mrs.” posted this because Chopper Woman had noticed that Tammy was missing, as well, and the “Mrs.” was trying to take attention away from that fact, insinuating that she “knew” that Tammy couldn’t possibly be “involved,” in HT’s disappearance. I don’t think that’s true at all, but I don’t think Tammy was “involved” in the way Chopper Woman may have thought!
10. “Mrs. HT” makes another post to the Bat-Blog that blatantly throws suspicion on Pesty Flannigan (and, by association, Goliath) stating that Pesty replied to a post “somebody” made on the CCC asking where they could buy a “machete” and that Pesty replied to that post with references to duct tape, rope, lime and a shovel, which the “Mrs.” claims was quickly deleted and apparently (and conveniently) not seen by anyone else on the CCC due to it’s “brief” existence, thus firmly planting Pesty in the minds of concerned readers as a possible, maybe even probable suspect, and, by professional association, Goliath, as well. Once again she thanks the mysterious “The Hood Hunts In A Pack” for their “help” with the “investigation.” Once again, a diversionary tactic.
11. The CCC goes down. The “Mrs.” starts diverting attention everywhere and anywhere – Granny and Chopper think HT’s run off with Tammy, nobody can find Pesty, Cindi/Abby please don’t get carried away, Granny you had an idea so where did you go, did somebody “blow up” the CCC – even the ridiculous notion that HT may have been involved in a “Russian Spy Ring” and deported to Siberia!!!! She reiterates that she has told him time and again to “stay off the damn internet.”
12. HT “escapes” and posts about it, thanking the “Mrs.” for keeping the Bat-Blog online during “trying times” (and, tellingly, that “the CCC wasn’t as fortunate”). A passing “thanks” to Grumpy Granny, who, “rescued me after my escape,” thus completely disavowing GG’s actual role in his escape and basically relegating her to the role of just “giving him a ride home” after he managed to free himself!!! He then says he “can’t go into many details…currently being debriefed by the CIA…this is Class A top secret information…can only say there is a conspiracy involved.” Well, that’s one thing I can agree with…there definitely was a conspiracy involved!!!!!!!!!!!!
13. “HT” invites former CCC members to “use the Bat-Blog for any information they may wish to post,” and states that local politicians “have declared today a holiday in recognition of the CCC’s demise.” There are no verified reports to back up this claim.
14. HT starts putting up completely delusional posts, claiming that he is a former Navy Seal who served with Jesse “The Body” Ventura, accusing GG of being a “mole,” and serving up a laundry list of suspects regarding the downfall of the CCC in what sounds suspiciously like a banned CCC member’s "pet peeves" list, i.e., “leading suspects ColtsFan, The Big Q, the professor and GG…ColtsFan has the technical knowledge to bring it down. The Big Q always wanted to be the big man at the CCC. The professor is just a patsy who goes along with the other two and…my “sources” think GG might be a “mole,” a double agent working both sides"…and completely discredits GG (who is a widely respected and professionally accredited “security agent”) and her explanation of HT’s rescue. He then invites anyone with any questions or “information” to send them to the Bat-Blog.
And that pretty much sums up the sequence of events so far. Notice any recurring themes here? I certainly do. If you think I’m onto something here, let me know and I’ll post exactly what I think has happened, who is responsible, exactly what their goals are (some of which have already been met!) and how we can finally, REALLY “rescue” HT (and, coincidentally, Tammy, Pesty, and the REAL Mrs. HT!!!) and defeat an age-old, evil foe in the process.
Saturday, May 1, 2010
A Narrowly Averted Disaster
Thank goodness, the Bat-Blog is back! HT has given up his recent exclusive diet of syrup and sugar and is back - in full fighting trim! I shudder to think what could have resulted if he hadn't seen the light. I can only hope that my friends would stage an intervention for my sake if I ever gave in to the temptation of the "sweet life."
Welcome back, HT!
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
Roy Makes The Scene
Saturday, April 17, 2010
Springtime In The Garden
Some pics of our side yard and our backyard vegetable garden.
These are actually in our next door neighbor's backyard, right next to the fence. We have violets scattered throughout our yard, but nothing as dense as this big patch. Beautiful.
Our little Lily bug by the iris bed in the back yard. She wasn't particularly pleased with having to sit and pose.
The crops, planted/planned: Two kinds of tomatoes, onions, bush and pole beans, brussels sprouts, bell peppers, jalepeno peppers, carrots, and two rows to be determined later.
This is a brussels sprout plant my husband planted last fall. It has flowered and is going to seed.
The strawberry pyramid - the daughter plants have jumped to the ground around the base and are marching off into the yard.
These are actually in our next door neighbor's backyard, right next to the fence. We have violets scattered throughout our yard, but nothing as dense as this big patch. Beautiful.
Our little Lily bug by the iris bed in the back yard. She wasn't particularly pleased with having to sit and pose.
The crops, planted/planned: Two kinds of tomatoes, onions, bush and pole beans, brussels sprouts, bell peppers, jalepeno peppers, carrots, and two rows to be determined later.
This is a brussels sprout plant my husband planted last fall. It has flowered and is going to seed.
The strawberry pyramid - the daughter plants have jumped to the ground around the base and are marching off into the yard.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Hiding In Plain Sight
My God!!! It was right in front of our faces the whole time!
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Sunday, April 11, 2010
The Devil Defends His Reputation
The Devil explains that, contrary to the claims of the Vatican, he has nothing whatsoever to do with the Catholic Church's child molestation scandal.
Friday, April 9, 2010
Big John
Every time I hear about a coal mining accident I think of this. I guess it shows my age - and how long lethal accidents have been an accepted risk of mining by the workers - the risk that management never takes. Union mines have a much better safety record than non-union mines. That is a fact. So think about that and what it means as far as the human cost of "doing business" the next time you feel the urge to bash unions.
Monday, April 5, 2010
Do As I Say, Not As I Do.
This is what happens when you show up at a tea party with a "no medicare" pledge.
Morons (teabonics translation: Morans).
Morons (teabonics translation: Morans).
Sunday, April 4, 2010
Saturday, April 3, 2010
Teabonics
Friday, April 2, 2010
John Williams Is The Man!
An a cappella tribute to John Williams.
John Williams (born February 8, 1932) is an American composer, conductor and pianist. In a career that spans six decades, Williams has composed many of the most famous film scores in history, including all but one of Steven Spielberg's feature films, Star Wars, Superman, Jaws, E.T., Born on the Fourth of July, Harry Potter, and more.
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And Danny Elfman is no slouch, either.
Daniel Robert "Danny" Elfman (born May 29, 1953) is an American musician, best known for composing music for television and movies and leading the rock band Oingo Boingo as singer/songwriter from 1976 until its breakup in 1995. He is a frequent collaborator with long-time friend Tim Burton and has scored all of his films (with the exception of Ed Wood and Sweeney Todd). He has been nominated for four Academy Awards and won a Grammy Award for Tim Burton's Batman and an Emmy Award for his Desperate Housewives theme. Elfman is famous for creating The Simpsons main title theme, and his role as Jack Skellington's singing voice in The Nightmare Before Christmas. He also sang for the character Bone Jangles in the movie Corpse Bride. He is the uncle in-law to actress Jenna Elfman.
John Williams (born February 8, 1932) is an American composer, conductor and pianist. In a career that spans six decades, Williams has composed many of the most famous film scores in history, including all but one of Steven Spielberg's feature films, Star Wars, Superman, Jaws, E.T., Born on the Fourth of July, Harry Potter, and more.
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And Danny Elfman is no slouch, either.
Daniel Robert "Danny" Elfman (born May 29, 1953) is an American musician, best known for composing music for television and movies and leading the rock band Oingo Boingo as singer/songwriter from 1976 until its breakup in 1995. He is a frequent collaborator with long-time friend Tim Burton and has scored all of his films (with the exception of Ed Wood and Sweeney Todd). He has been nominated for four Academy Awards and won a Grammy Award for Tim Burton's Batman and an Emmy Award for his Desperate Housewives theme. Elfman is famous for creating The Simpsons main title theme, and his role as Jack Skellington's singing voice in The Nightmare Before Christmas. He also sang for the character Bone Jangles in the movie Corpse Bride. He is the uncle in-law to actress Jenna Elfman.
Thursday, April 1, 2010
The Locust Of The Apocalypse
Former VP candidate, half-term governor, professional quitter, pathological liar, celebrity swag hag, environmental terrorist, enemy of science and all around plague on humanity Sarah Palin now has a show on The Discovery Channel. Reports are just coming in that The Discovery Channel has been overrun and is now controlled by throngs of brain eating zombies from Wasilla, Alaska. Stay tuned for instructions from your local civil defense agency.
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
Eliza's Revenge
Professor Higgins tricks traitor guttersnipe, blinks H.E.L.P. M.E. distress message.
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Double Take
Eric Cantor - Minority Whip of the United States House of Representatives - and Sarah Palin - Former VP candidate, half-term governor, professional quitter, pathological liar, celebrity swag hag, environmental terrorist, enemy of science and all around plague on humanity.
Twins?
Hmmm...You know, now that I think of it...I can't recall ever seeing them together.
Coincidence?
Twins?
Hmmm...You know, now that I think of it...I can't recall ever seeing them together.
Coincidence?
Pants On Fire
Why is Scott Brown so willing to ditch his pants for a photo layout?
Probably because they're on fire.
Probably because they're on fire.
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Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Teabaggers: No taxation with representation, dammit! Wait...what?
"The protest movement that culminated with the Boston Tea Party was not a dispute about high taxes. The price of legally imported tea was actually reduced by the Tea Act of 1773. Protestors were instead concerned with a variety of other issues. The familiar "no taxation without representation" argument, along with the question of the extent of Parliament's authority in the colonies, remained prominent."
Um, guys, yoo-hoo, you DO have representation. That's what elections are all about. In a (representative) democracy, the majority rules and a majority of your fellow citizens voted for the representatives who are now in congress.
More history here:
Yes, I know it's Wiki, but this version is how I learned it in school many, many years ago.
Bring it, Bitches!
When all appeals to decency and rationality fail, there's really no choice left but to bring out the big guns:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-29-2010/health-care-slime-machine
Keep askin' for it, kid, and you're gonna get it. And you're not gonna like it. Just sayin'.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-29-2010/health-care-slime-machine
Keep askin' for it, kid, and you're gonna get it. And you're not gonna like it. Just sayin'.
Monday, March 29, 2010
Doh!
Oklahoma bill targeting gays hilariously misses its mark:
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0329/oklahoma-bill-targeting-gays-misses-mark/
What Is This World Coming To?
A "big tent" republican has concerns about racial diversity on CSPAN.
"The next thing you know, they'll want to swim in the same swimming pools, drink from the same drinking fountains and eat in the same restaurants as us!"
"The next thing you know, they'll want to swim in the same swimming pools, drink from the same drinking fountains and eat in the same restaurants as us!"
Response To Criticism And Concerns
My reply to comments on the CCC about my deleted post:
Happycat, you’ve been in the punishment corner long enough. I said my piece and you and I no longer have any kind of problem – except this: No complaining that I responded to you in public. You chose the venue of attack, a public forum, in the first place. Other than that, I think the coincidence of me returning and seeing your post, which I do believe was a little out of character for you, and the ensuing blow-up may have actually, inadvertently, done a real service to this forum. I’ll get to that in a bit.
Professor, well, I’m a little surprised. You said:
“When she used the term "tar and feathering" I never once thought she meant that literally.”
From Happycat’s original post:
“I can honestly say now that there are several people who ‘serve’ this country that I would love to see literally tarred and feathered.”
Professor, has the meaning of the word "literally" changed while I wasn’t looking?
Also, you and Quasar mentioned that my post was “laced with profanity.” According to my Word program’s word count function, out of 4,108 words in my post six of them were a very mild expletive meaning either a hoofed mammal of the genus Equus or the fleshy part of the human body that you sit on. Six. And I used * for parts of the offending word except in two cases where I highlighted it as part of another word by typing it in all caps. This could have easily been edited without changing any of my meaning. But, all right, if the use of this mild expletive is enough to give some people on this forum a case of the vapors, well, I think I have enough of a way with words to leave that out of my posts in the future and still get my meaning across.
Kelley, I have nothing to “atone” for. Zero, zip, zilch, nada. I was viciously attacked without warrant. You piled on. You got burned in the return fire. Put some salve on your wounds and get on with life. Quasar – ditto.
And, no, AbbysNana, people who stand up when they’re being bullied and fire back as good as they get don’t need anger management classes. They need to keep on doing exactly what they’re doing when it’s appropriate or the bullies end up running roughshod over them and everyone else.
Now back to what Happycat and I have perhaps inadvertently accomplished. Jules made a very good point -
“But, I also think it's a good example of how someone with what I consider to be rational common sense can be whipped up into a frenzy so easily.”
We would all do well to heed that little bit of wisdom. I think that the result of the dust-up between Happycat and me has lanced a festering wound here on this forum. Professor, judging from the amount of supportive responses to my original post, I think it’s obvious that there is a problem with a significant number of people on this forum feeling justified resentment at the way they are allowed to be treated. Now, you are the moderator and it’s up to you to deal with that any way you want – or not. How you deal with it – or not – will demonstrate to those who feel that way everything they need to know about how they can expect to be treated on this forum in the future and they can make up their minds as to if they want to continue to participate or not. For example, there is a recent topic started by ASULWO titled, “Funny.” It’s not. It’s absolutely demeaning to people of a certain political persuasion who participate on this forum and it is certainly uncalled for and out of bounds. I’ve had the dubious honor, apparently, of being the first person to have ever had their entire post deleted on this forum. I respectfully suggest that ASULWO be the second. It would go a long way towards ending any speculation that there is, indeed, a double standard here.
And that’s about all I have to say for now. But, I can assure you, if I ever see any thinly veiled, or not so thinly veiled, calls for violence or “wolf pack,” behavior on this forum again, well…I guess I’ll end up having an entire post deleted again. And I won’t regret it one bit.
Happycat, you’ve been in the punishment corner long enough. I said my piece and you and I no longer have any kind of problem – except this: No complaining that I responded to you in public. You chose the venue of attack, a public forum, in the first place. Other than that, I think the coincidence of me returning and seeing your post, which I do believe was a little out of character for you, and the ensuing blow-up may have actually, inadvertently, done a real service to this forum. I’ll get to that in a bit.
Professor, well, I’m a little surprised. You said:
“When she used the term "tar and feathering" I never once thought she meant that literally.”
From Happycat’s original post:
“I can honestly say now that there are several people who ‘serve’ this country that I would love to see literally tarred and feathered.”
Professor, has the meaning of the word "literally" changed while I wasn’t looking?
Also, you and Quasar mentioned that my post was “laced with profanity.” According to my Word program’s word count function, out of 4,108 words in my post six of them were a very mild expletive meaning either a hoofed mammal of the genus Equus or the fleshy part of the human body that you sit on. Six. And I used * for parts of the offending word except in two cases where I highlighted it as part of another word by typing it in all caps. This could have easily been edited without changing any of my meaning. But, all right, if the use of this mild expletive is enough to give some people on this forum a case of the vapors, well, I think I have enough of a way with words to leave that out of my posts in the future and still get my meaning across.
Kelley, I have nothing to “atone” for. Zero, zip, zilch, nada. I was viciously attacked without warrant. You piled on. You got burned in the return fire. Put some salve on your wounds and get on with life. Quasar – ditto.
And, no, AbbysNana, people who stand up when they’re being bullied and fire back as good as they get don’t need anger management classes. They need to keep on doing exactly what they’re doing when it’s appropriate or the bullies end up running roughshod over them and everyone else.
Now back to what Happycat and I have perhaps inadvertently accomplished. Jules made a very good point -
“But, I also think it's a good example of how someone with what I consider to be rational common sense can be whipped up into a frenzy so easily.”
We would all do well to heed that little bit of wisdom. I think that the result of the dust-up between Happycat and me has lanced a festering wound here on this forum. Professor, judging from the amount of supportive responses to my original post, I think it’s obvious that there is a problem with a significant number of people on this forum feeling justified resentment at the way they are allowed to be treated. Now, you are the moderator and it’s up to you to deal with that any way you want – or not. How you deal with it – or not – will demonstrate to those who feel that way everything they need to know about how they can expect to be treated on this forum in the future and they can make up their minds as to if they want to continue to participate or not. For example, there is a recent topic started by ASULWO titled, “Funny.” It’s not. It’s absolutely demeaning to people of a certain political persuasion who participate on this forum and it is certainly uncalled for and out of bounds. I’ve had the dubious honor, apparently, of being the first person to have ever had their entire post deleted on this forum. I respectfully suggest that ASULWO be the second. It would go a long way towards ending any speculation that there is, indeed, a double standard here.
And that’s about all I have to say for now. But, I can assure you, if I ever see any thinly veiled, or not so thinly veiled, calls for violence or “wolf pack,” behavior on this forum again, well…I guess I’ll end up having an entire post deleted again. And I won’t regret it one bit.
Saturday, March 27, 2010
Lets Play Hardball!
Cross posted (and promptly deleted) at Clark County Chatter
LET’S PLAY HARDBALL
I recently returned to this forum after a 6 month absence and became alarmed at some of the violent rhetoric that had been posted, and so I commented on it. Some of the conservative members of the community were outraged by my outrage and lobbed quite a few of their hardest "hardballs" at me. Heck, I'm game. Let's play.
And she steps up to the plate...
Batta, batta, batta, batta, SWING!!!!
I guess only rabid, left-wing socialist liberals
Look back at my post. NOWHERE did I attack you personally or call you names. I attacked the content of your post and its general tone of accepting the encouragement of violence as political expression - under a thin, thin sheet of weasel-worded “I’m not saying what I SAID should be done should actually BE done, of course” CYA toilet paper camouflage. Yoo hoo – It’s not working. I can still see your a$$ plain as day. And, as usual with blowhard bullies, you decided to respond by attacking me personally about what you ASSumed are my personal character flaws, instead of addressing the actual subject. And, missy, ASSume is exactly what you did. If you ever entertained any notions of becoming a professional psychic I advise you to give up that dream. You simply don’t have the talent. You know nothing about me. Not yet, at least.
have the right to get upset over something the opposing party does.
So you’re actually admitting that the tactics of thuggery and intimidation are officially condoned by the Republican party? Well, I’ll give you this much credit - at least you’re one wackaloon wingnut who actually has the stones to come out and publicly admit that a significantly powerful wing of the Republican party now officially condones and encourages terroristic tactics. Thank you for at least being that honest.
you know, the ones who have no common sense and have masters degrees in denial?
You know, that is the one theme I’ve noticed, reading as much of the recent comments as I could stomach, that actually gave me a chuckle. In the first place, the only ones who seem to be in denial are the wackaloon wingnut conservatives (as opposed to rational conservatives). You (wackaloon wingnuts) are in denial of the fact that you are now in the minority. Yes, that’s right – you lost. The house, the senate and the presidency. Screaming and screeching, kicking your heels, banging on your tinfoil hats and generally making a huge ruckus does NOT mean you’re in the majority. It’s the votes that count – not the decibels. And the American people voted, by a CLEAR majority, to reject your party. And now, much like rejected lovers who can’t accept the fact that they’ve been rejected, you are stalking the object of your “affection,” whining, wheedling, yelling, screaming, cursing, threatening and generally being an all around a**hole in an effort to “make” your ex take you back and love you again. I keep hearing the wingnuts saying “the majority of Americans don’t want this…” but the majority of Americans clearly and decisively voted for the people who said that they would do exactly what they have done. Once again, just to make it perfectly clear – being the LOUDEST does NOT make you the majority.
Also, too, you betcha, the snide “master’s degree” reference. I’ve noticed that wackaloon wingnuts seem to have a problem with anyone who might have the faintest hint of an “intellectual air” about them - like people who worked hard, applied themselves, kept their focus and managed to graduate from third grade. That’s why they end up voting for people they think would be “good fun to have a beer with, someone just like me.” I’m pretty sure we all saw how well that worked out with the previous administration.
Cindi, you conveniently ignored everything else I've posted on this thread about my views. The phrase 'whole truth and nothing but the truth' doesn't apply to you, apparently.
It doesn’t matter what else you posted on that thread or anywhere else. The whole truth and nothing but the truth is that in that particular post you advocated by “suggestion” that:
I would love to see literally tarred and feathered. I'm not willing to wait until November to get these people out of office. They need to go NOW. I'm not promoting violence - not saying I literally want to drag Baron Hill out of bed and kill him. But I want to see every demoncrat who voted for this bill suffer. I want to see their personal and professional lives ruined. If they own businesses outside their political life, that business needs to be brought down.
You actually publically stated that you want people’s lives ruined, and actually fantasized about them being killed, over a political difference. You didn’t care about any “collateral damage” like their families or the people they might employ and the tragic consequences that would ensue for THEM. No siree, as long as you get your pound of flesh, well, some collateral damage is unavoidable in “war”, isn’t it? Besides, you clearly stated that that YOU didn’t literally want to drag Baron Hill out of bed and kill him. You just put that idea out there in the air for any mentally unbalanced person to receive and possibly act upon – an objective, a focus, a mission statement. Wouldn’t that be the perfect outcome for you? Someone else actually does the deed you suggested, your “enemy” is “taken out,” and the stooge who carried out your stated will pays the consequences, as does his/her family because it would be a tragedy for them, as well. And you walk away scot free because you “covered your a**” with a few weasel words. That would be a major win/win for you, wouldn’t it? A real “mission accomplished” moment. It doesn’t matter what else you said in any other post. You’re still responsible for the content of that particular post, as you are for all of your posts, individually and in total.
You are kidding right? You don't really think what HC posted would cause someone to go out and do something illegal do you? If a person is that far over the edge, something like this posted here won't be the cause of them doing something that they shouldn't.
For those of you who try to deny and minimize the damage this kind of inflammatory rhetoric can cause because “everyone knows it’s metaphorical, just a figure of speech. Nobody would really do that,” I’ve got news for you inexcusably irresponsible jerks. Not everyone knows it’s metaphorical. There ARE people who would really do that. Maybe you think you know everyone on this forum well enough to claim with assurance that no one here would ever act on those suggestions. In the first place, you CAN’T know that. No one can predict with absolute certainty what ANYONE, even a person they’ve known their whole life, is going to do at any given moment. The best you can do is predict what they will likely do – and, granted, most of the time be correct. But let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that no one YOU KNOW ABOUT on this forum would ever mistake your “metaphorical meaning” and act upon it. How about the lurkers? People who read, but never comment? You have no interactions with them to base any estimate of their likely behavior upon. They are a completely unknown element to you. In my job I transcribe medical reports for a local mental hospital. Places where people with MAJOR mental illnesses like schizophrenia are hospitalized – temporarily. These are people who have auditory and visual hallucinations and are extremely paranoid. They are not necessarily intellectually challenged by any greater percentage than the general population. But they are severely and oftentimes dangerously mentally ill. They are given therapy, stabilized on medications and released. Many of them either immediately stop taking their medications or slowly taper off of them. Sometimes the medications start being less effective after a patient has been on them for a while. At that point, they start to spiral down into madness and paranoia again. And during that time, while they are living in their own home, with family or friends, or in group homes or shelters, a lot of them have access to television and computers. They’re already paranoid and mentally ill. It doesn’t take very much to set them off. And they’re seeing high flying, inflammatory, irresponsible rhetoric that says “revolution is at hand!!!!” and “the traitors must suffer!!!!,” etc. I can’t (and wouldn’t) give any details about these poor souls. But believe me, the rhetoric spouted by the likes of Beck, Palin, etc., have done harm that you just couldn’t imagine. Have you included those people in your calculated estimate of who is and who is not likely to “get it” that you’re speaking metaphorically? No, I didn’t think so.
I wonder if you were so upset when a movie came out a few years ago depicting the assassination of GW Bush. Somehow, I doubt it. When that movie was cheered, did you frown? Were you appalled?
Nice try, slick. I can say that, yes, I was appalled and would never condone, much less view such horrendous trash. But, as you knew when you wrote that, I can only give my word that that was my reaction. I’m pretty sure that those who have known me on this forum from the time it opened until I left last fall will take me at my word. I really don’t give two squats if you do or not. However, I will make this point: If that movie had really pleased the liberals to high heaven it would have been EVERYWHERE on liberal sites on the net and in independent movie theaters, promoted heavily by “liberal Hollywood.” It wasn’t. It quickly sank like a stone, just like Ben Stein’s “masterpiece.” Figure it out for yourself, Einstein.
When the family members of servicemen and women who are killed overseas have to have protection at their loved ones' funerals from the rabid protestors who are screaming at them how evil this war is, do you shudder?* Or do you silently cheer, pumping your fists and saying "go get 'em"?
You’ve really stepped in it now, missy. I usually expect oinking to come out of a pig’s mouth, not the other end. Nevertheless, I certainly do have a response to your noxious, gaseous excretion masquerading as inquiry. I am eligible, through my father’s side of the family, for membership in the Daughters of the American Revolution. Do you have any idea what that means? It means that members of my family have been fighting in the service of this country SINCE. DAY. ONE. My father had, until the deaths of some of his older siblings, nine brothers and two sisters. I can’t remember a time in my life when someone in our family wasn’t serving in the military. My father is an Air Force Veteran. He and his twin brother joined up together. My older uncles served in World War II and Korea. A paternal cousin served in the seventies and died of liver cancer in the VA Hospital in the late 90s. I have two sisters and no brothers. Perhaps it diminishes us in your eyes, but my sisters and I didn’t serve. On my mother’s side I have two cousins who have served. One recently served in Afghanistan – called up just before retirement. Thankfully he made it back unharmed. His brother served in the Air Force and died at a young age, just after retirement, of a heart attack. One of my uncles who served in Korea suffered severe depression and paranoia resulting from his experience there until his death. My brother-in-law also just recently retired from the Navy. He was a medical officer on a submarine. My other sister’s ex-husband served in Viet Nam as a helicopter crew chief. His PTSD was so bad it was a major contributing factor in their eventual divorce. I vividly recall as a child seeing the shrapnel scars on my grandmother’s second husband’s back and abdomen when he took off his shirt to swim with us down at their lake property. He got those physical badges of courage fighting in the south pacific during WWII. These people are heroes in my eyes for their service. They all served to preserve and protect the right and freedom for blowhards like you to question the patriotism of your fellow citizens that you have a political disagreement with. So, on behalf of the members of my family who have served to protect your right to be an a$$hat, I sincerely offer you this “You’re welcome.” Hope you choke on it, you swine.
I have an aunt who is just like you.
I seriously doubt it. If I was your aunt and caught you bullying others or inciting others to carry out your crazy vendetta fantasies, I would have snatched you up by the hair of your head and whaled the tar out of your sorry butt every step of the way home to your mother, my sister, who would have thanked me for my trouble and then proceeded to whale the tar out of your arrogant, insolent butt again just to make sure the lesson stuck. There were very few infractions I was ever willing to lay hands on my son for, but bullying was #1 on mom’s “hit” list. Simply. Not. Tolerated.
I could be lying in front of her bleeding to death and she would look at me and say, "Oh, well, I guess I'll have to clean up this blood by myself, because you won't help me, will you?" YOU COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT.
Well, I have to admit that that one has me stumped. Exactly what WAS your point? Were you questioning my humanity? charity? empathy? work ethic? It’s really unclear from that sentence. I don’t personally know you or your aunt or anything about the dynamics of your relationship – but I get the idea that you have some sort of issues with her that you’re attempting to battle out with her by way of proxy, namely me. I don’t know what it is you THINK I have in common with your aunt, but I suggest you deal with those issues face-to-face with HER. As I stated at the beginning, you know nothing about me. Or at least you didn’t then.
I feel sorry for ignorant fools like you. You have no concept of what the real world is like.
And you have no idea what an ignorant, arrogant, presumptuous, moronic statement that was. I have been living in the “real world” for 52 years as a member of the working class. I have worked, except for a few years when my husband supported us solely when my son was a very small child, almost my entire adult life. I have paid my share of taxes in return for the safety, security and public works the “common wealth” provides for the good of my community, state and country. I have lived through both good times and bad, depending upon the unpredictable turns life sometimes takes. I know exactly what it is to live paycheck to paycheck, stressed and worrying about that one unexpected expense or setback that could put my entire family out on the street. I know exactly what it’s like to try to stretch a one person food budget to meet the needs of a three person household, one of them being a child. I have experienced both heart rending tragedy and heart lifting joy in my real world existence. And I have survived. So save your arrogant offer of pity. It’s neither needed, nor wanted.
One day, when it all goes to hades in a handbag, you'll have to rely on us redneck, throwback, hillbilly, gun-toting conservatives for your safety and for your supplies. You won't know how to fend for yourself because you've grown so accustomed to someone providing for you.
Let me fill you in on a little more of the history of my family. My paternal ancestors were among the first group of settlers to come through the Cumberland Gap. They settled in the hills of Kentucky. One of my ancestors, Captain Sylvester Isaacs, not only served in the civil war, he later became a judge. My father’s family hails from Owsley County. And there his nuclear family stayed until half of the twelve children (born at home) were grown, and then they moved to Louisville. That makes me a first generation, direct descendent of an actual hillbilly. The genuine article – not some hillbilly/cowboy wannabe puffed up poser. And I grew up in one of the most redneck areas in Louisville – the south end, right on the line between Shively and Pleasure Ridge. You simply can’t get more redneck than that. And I’m pretty sure I’ve given more than enough evidence by now to prove that I’m more than capable of fending and providing for myself. So, once again, your faith in your ability to intuitively “know” me has been seriously misplaced.
The sad truth is that we won't begrudge helping you, because that's the kind of people we are. Bet you can't say the same.
The sad truth is that I know exactly “the kind of people you are” because you’ve stated it clearly in a post calling for ruining the lives of people you have political disagreements with and fantasizing about their death. So don’t try to sell yourself as a model of charity and humanity now. And I don’t think you should be placing any bets about knowing the character of others anymore. You’ve already gambled away any credibility you may have formerly had in that regard by arrogantly placing all your marbles on the bet that you somehow knew all about what kind of person I am by virtue of reading nothing more than a single forum post I made.
Good God! These people might be talking revolution! Where could that possibly end!
And pointing to the bad behavior of a few tea party types then generalizing that to the entire bunch is the same as picking out the least savory members of any group and attributing their characteristics to all members of the group. It is stereotyping, generalizing and in the same league as racism and sexism.
We all know how classy it is to throw in the Nazi references.
There have been more of these “isolated incidents” of “bad behavior” and if you follow the news you already know about them. It’s escalating. Tell me, in your opinion, how many “isolated incidents” of “bad behavior” does it take to become a pattern? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? Until someone gets hurt? Until someone gets killed? I think the difference between you and me is that you are willing to ignore or dismiss these “isolated incidents” of “bad behavior” until a real tragedy occurs. I, on the other hand, want to nip it in the bud BEFORE a real tragedy occurs. And though I agree that the Nazi reference is ridiculously overused, there are actually those rare times when the comparison is valid. Windows were smashed in America by thugs to intimidate people for political purposes. Windows were smashed in Nazi Germany by thugs to intimidate people for political purposes. Please point out to me where I’m mistaken in considering those two incidents to be similar, and similarly alarming. And please inform me as to which type of “ist” it makes me to see this pattern, be alarmed by it, and point it out. As far as me not being “classy” well, I’m really not concerned about anyone else’s opinion about that. I do and say what I think is right and let the chips fall where they may, whether it makes me appear to be “classy” or not.
You can't blame people for being angry at this socialist / communist power grab that is seen by many as illegal and unconstitutional. People are upset and they are well within their rights to talk about it. You can't simply dismiss the sentiment as right wing extremism, we even see numerous states now filing law suits about this legislation. The concern is real and we better be talking about it unless we really want to see the country fail.
Interesting attempt at censorship though..
Horse hockey. You have no interest in “talking” about your “concern.” That is clearly evidenced by your consistent use of overblown, insulting, hyperbolic rhetoric, calling people communist, socialist, marxist, etc., etc, etc, ad nauseum, because you’re angry that the democrats (who are, and always have been – surprise, surprise – liberal) have now been voted into the majority. I remember all the talk about fascism during the Bush administration and how we would all end up incarcerated in FEMA camps (ironically, that bit of paranoid fear mongering has been conveniently switched over and assigned to Obama now that he’s president – kinda makes you wonder if someone is profiting from keeping irrational fear at a fever pitch, doesn’t it?). I was worried about things like the Patriot Act, torture, government eavesdropping, etc., as well. But you know what? The country survived a two term administration of what I consider to be the radical right wing in power. And it will also survive a one or two term administration of what you consider to be the radical left wing in power. As far as the state lawsuits, some governors have already kicked their overzealous right wing AGs to the curb on that. And so what if lawsuits are filed? The courts will decide if the legislation has legal legs to stand on or not. If not, it won’t stand. If it does, it will stand – no matter how much you pull your hair, rend your clothes, gnash your teeth and scream socialism, communism, marxism, etc., etc., etc. If you don’t like the direction the country is going in, then you should work hard to field good candidates, sell the voters on your platform and win elections. Simple as that.
What I find interesting is that you are STILL using the same flip line, “interesting attempt at censorship,” as a mechanism to defend some particularly obnoxious behavior from criticism and rebuke because it’s coming from someone who has the same ideological beliefs as you. Cliché though it may be, it’s not censorship to prohibit people from yelling “fire” in a crowded theater or “Hi Jack” in an airport terminal. It’s civic responsibility in the interest of public safety. Just like calling for an end to public urgings to do violence and injury to political opponents is in the interest of public safety. Honestly, if you can’t understand that, well, either you’re being intellectually dishonest or you’re intellectually challenged. Personally, I don’t believe that you are intellectually challenged.
Well kids, it’s been a fun, but tiring game of hardball and we’ve come to the end of the last inning. This old lady is pooped! But before I retire, I’d like to address some other people who visit this forum. Have you felt bullied here? Shouted down, personally insulted by a “wolf pack” for giving your opinion about something on what is supposed to be a community forum where all are supposed to be welcome and encouraged to engage in civil debate? Has it soured you to the point that you’ve just stopped commenting? Or have you hesitated to ever comment at all because you’ve seen others being savaged by the “wolf pack?” Well guys, here’s your chance to step up to the plate and hit one outta the park by making your feelings known and letting the administrators of the forum know that there really is a problem with bullying here. Simply respond “ditto” to this post - sort of a “Reverse Rush.” Things may not change, but at least you will have stood up to the bullies, and, believe me, it’s a good feeling to finally stand up to a bully. And if I only get a few dittos, or even none at all, you know what I’m going to do? Accept it. That’s right, I’ll just accept that the majority disagrees with me, go about my business and never make a peep about it again. I won’t holler, whine, or start a covert campaign to harass people I consider to be my enemies by making a gazillion reports to the moderators about them. I’ll just zip my lip, accept that that’s just the way it is around here, and move on. Promise.
LET’S PLAY HARDBALL
I recently returned to this forum after a 6 month absence and became alarmed at some of the violent rhetoric that had been posted, and so I commented on it. Some of the conservative members of the community were outraged by my outrage and lobbed quite a few of their hardest "hardballs" at me. Heck, I'm game. Let's play.
And she steps up to the plate...
Batta, batta, batta, batta, SWING!!!!
I guess only rabid, left-wing socialist liberals
Look back at my post. NOWHERE did I attack you personally or call you names. I attacked the content of your post and its general tone of accepting the encouragement of violence as political expression - under a thin, thin sheet of weasel-worded “I’m not saying what I SAID should be done should actually BE done, of course” CYA toilet paper camouflage. Yoo hoo – It’s not working. I can still see your a$$ plain as day. And, as usual with blowhard bullies, you decided to respond by attacking me personally about what you ASSumed are my personal character flaws, instead of addressing the actual subject. And, missy, ASSume is exactly what you did. If you ever entertained any notions of becoming a professional psychic I advise you to give up that dream. You simply don’t have the talent. You know nothing about me. Not yet, at least.
have the right to get upset over something the opposing party does.
So you’re actually admitting that the tactics of thuggery and intimidation are officially condoned by the Republican party? Well, I’ll give you this much credit - at least you’re one wackaloon wingnut who actually has the stones to come out and publicly admit that a significantly powerful wing of the Republican party now officially condones and encourages terroristic tactics. Thank you for at least being that honest.
you know, the ones who have no common sense and have masters degrees in denial?
You know, that is the one theme I’ve noticed, reading as much of the recent comments as I could stomach, that actually gave me a chuckle. In the first place, the only ones who seem to be in denial are the wackaloon wingnut conservatives (as opposed to rational conservatives). You (wackaloon wingnuts) are in denial of the fact that you are now in the minority. Yes, that’s right – you lost. The house, the senate and the presidency. Screaming and screeching, kicking your heels, banging on your tinfoil hats and generally making a huge ruckus does NOT mean you’re in the majority. It’s the votes that count – not the decibels. And the American people voted, by a CLEAR majority, to reject your party. And now, much like rejected lovers who can’t accept the fact that they’ve been rejected, you are stalking the object of your “affection,” whining, wheedling, yelling, screaming, cursing, threatening and generally being an all around a**hole in an effort to “make” your ex take you back and love you again. I keep hearing the wingnuts saying “the majority of Americans don’t want this…” but the majority of Americans clearly and decisively voted for the people who said that they would do exactly what they have done. Once again, just to make it perfectly clear – being the LOUDEST does NOT make you the majority.
Also, too, you betcha, the snide “master’s degree” reference. I’ve noticed that wackaloon wingnuts seem to have a problem with anyone who might have the faintest hint of an “intellectual air” about them - like people who worked hard, applied themselves, kept their focus and managed to graduate from third grade. That’s why they end up voting for people they think would be “good fun to have a beer with, someone just like me.” I’m pretty sure we all saw how well that worked out with the previous administration.
Cindi, you conveniently ignored everything else I've posted on this thread about my views. The phrase 'whole truth and nothing but the truth' doesn't apply to you, apparently.
It doesn’t matter what else you posted on that thread or anywhere else. The whole truth and nothing but the truth is that in that particular post you advocated by “suggestion” that:
I would love to see literally tarred and feathered. I'm not willing to wait until November to get these people out of office. They need to go NOW. I'm not promoting violence - not saying I literally want to drag Baron Hill out of bed and kill him. But I want to see every demoncrat who voted for this bill suffer. I want to see their personal and professional lives ruined. If they own businesses outside their political life, that business needs to be brought down.
You actually publically stated that you want people’s lives ruined, and actually fantasized about them being killed, over a political difference. You didn’t care about any “collateral damage” like their families or the people they might employ and the tragic consequences that would ensue for THEM. No siree, as long as you get your pound of flesh, well, some collateral damage is unavoidable in “war”, isn’t it? Besides, you clearly stated that that YOU didn’t literally want to drag Baron Hill out of bed and kill him. You just put that idea out there in the air for any mentally unbalanced person to receive and possibly act upon – an objective, a focus, a mission statement. Wouldn’t that be the perfect outcome for you? Someone else actually does the deed you suggested, your “enemy” is “taken out,” and the stooge who carried out your stated will pays the consequences, as does his/her family because it would be a tragedy for them, as well. And you walk away scot free because you “covered your a**” with a few weasel words. That would be a major win/win for you, wouldn’t it? A real “mission accomplished” moment. It doesn’t matter what else you said in any other post. You’re still responsible for the content of that particular post, as you are for all of your posts, individually and in total.
You are kidding right? You don't really think what HC posted would cause someone to go out and do something illegal do you? If a person is that far over the edge, something like this posted here won't be the cause of them doing something that they shouldn't.
For those of you who try to deny and minimize the damage this kind of inflammatory rhetoric can cause because “everyone knows it’s metaphorical, just a figure of speech. Nobody would really do that,” I’ve got news for you inexcusably irresponsible jerks. Not everyone knows it’s metaphorical. There ARE people who would really do that. Maybe you think you know everyone on this forum well enough to claim with assurance that no one here would ever act on those suggestions. In the first place, you CAN’T know that. No one can predict with absolute certainty what ANYONE, even a person they’ve known their whole life, is going to do at any given moment. The best you can do is predict what they will likely do – and, granted, most of the time be correct. But let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that no one YOU KNOW ABOUT on this forum would ever mistake your “metaphorical meaning” and act upon it. How about the lurkers? People who read, but never comment? You have no interactions with them to base any estimate of their likely behavior upon. They are a completely unknown element to you. In my job I transcribe medical reports for a local mental hospital. Places where people with MAJOR mental illnesses like schizophrenia are hospitalized – temporarily. These are people who have auditory and visual hallucinations and are extremely paranoid. They are not necessarily intellectually challenged by any greater percentage than the general population. But they are severely and oftentimes dangerously mentally ill. They are given therapy, stabilized on medications and released. Many of them either immediately stop taking their medications or slowly taper off of them. Sometimes the medications start being less effective after a patient has been on them for a while. At that point, they start to spiral down into madness and paranoia again. And during that time, while they are living in their own home, with family or friends, or in group homes or shelters, a lot of them have access to television and computers. They’re already paranoid and mentally ill. It doesn’t take very much to set them off. And they’re seeing high flying, inflammatory, irresponsible rhetoric that says “revolution is at hand!!!!” and “the traitors must suffer!!!!,” etc. I can’t (and wouldn’t) give any details about these poor souls. But believe me, the rhetoric spouted by the likes of Beck, Palin, etc., have done harm that you just couldn’t imagine. Have you included those people in your calculated estimate of who is and who is not likely to “get it” that you’re speaking metaphorically? No, I didn’t think so.
I wonder if you were so upset when a movie came out a few years ago depicting the assassination of GW Bush. Somehow, I doubt it. When that movie was cheered, did you frown? Were you appalled?
Nice try, slick. I can say that, yes, I was appalled and would never condone, much less view such horrendous trash. But, as you knew when you wrote that, I can only give my word that that was my reaction. I’m pretty sure that those who have known me on this forum from the time it opened until I left last fall will take me at my word. I really don’t give two squats if you do or not. However, I will make this point: If that movie had really pleased the liberals to high heaven it would have been EVERYWHERE on liberal sites on the net and in independent movie theaters, promoted heavily by “liberal Hollywood.” It wasn’t. It quickly sank like a stone, just like Ben Stein’s “masterpiece.” Figure it out for yourself, Einstein.
When the family members of servicemen and women who are killed overseas have to have protection at their loved ones' funerals from the rabid protestors who are screaming at them how evil this war is, do you shudder?* Or do you silently cheer, pumping your fists and saying "go get 'em"?
You’ve really stepped in it now, missy. I usually expect oinking to come out of a pig’s mouth, not the other end. Nevertheless, I certainly do have a response to your noxious, gaseous excretion masquerading as inquiry. I am eligible, through my father’s side of the family, for membership in the Daughters of the American Revolution. Do you have any idea what that means? It means that members of my family have been fighting in the service of this country SINCE. DAY. ONE. My father had, until the deaths of some of his older siblings, nine brothers and two sisters. I can’t remember a time in my life when someone in our family wasn’t serving in the military. My father is an Air Force Veteran. He and his twin brother joined up together. My older uncles served in World War II and Korea. A paternal cousin served in the seventies and died of liver cancer in the VA Hospital in the late 90s. I have two sisters and no brothers. Perhaps it diminishes us in your eyes, but my sisters and I didn’t serve. On my mother’s side I have two cousins who have served. One recently served in Afghanistan – called up just before retirement. Thankfully he made it back unharmed. His brother served in the Air Force and died at a young age, just after retirement, of a heart attack. One of my uncles who served in Korea suffered severe depression and paranoia resulting from his experience there until his death. My brother-in-law also just recently retired from the Navy. He was a medical officer on a submarine. My other sister’s ex-husband served in Viet Nam as a helicopter crew chief. His PTSD was so bad it was a major contributing factor in their eventual divorce. I vividly recall as a child seeing the shrapnel scars on my grandmother’s second husband’s back and abdomen when he took off his shirt to swim with us down at their lake property. He got those physical badges of courage fighting in the south pacific during WWII. These people are heroes in my eyes for their service. They all served to preserve and protect the right and freedom for blowhards like you to question the patriotism of your fellow citizens that you have a political disagreement with. So, on behalf of the members of my family who have served to protect your right to be an a$$hat, I sincerely offer you this “You’re welcome.” Hope you choke on it, you swine.
I have an aunt who is just like you.
I seriously doubt it. If I was your aunt and caught you bullying others or inciting others to carry out your crazy vendetta fantasies, I would have snatched you up by the hair of your head and whaled the tar out of your sorry butt every step of the way home to your mother, my sister, who would have thanked me for my trouble and then proceeded to whale the tar out of your arrogant, insolent butt again just to make sure the lesson stuck. There were very few infractions I was ever willing to lay hands on my son for, but bullying was #1 on mom’s “hit” list. Simply. Not. Tolerated.
I could be lying in front of her bleeding to death and she would look at me and say, "Oh, well, I guess I'll have to clean up this blood by myself, because you won't help me, will you?" YOU COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT.
Well, I have to admit that that one has me stumped. Exactly what WAS your point? Were you questioning my humanity? charity? empathy? work ethic? It’s really unclear from that sentence. I don’t personally know you or your aunt or anything about the dynamics of your relationship – but I get the idea that you have some sort of issues with her that you’re attempting to battle out with her by way of proxy, namely me. I don’t know what it is you THINK I have in common with your aunt, but I suggest you deal with those issues face-to-face with HER. As I stated at the beginning, you know nothing about me. Or at least you didn’t then.
I feel sorry for ignorant fools like you. You have no concept of what the real world is like.
And you have no idea what an ignorant, arrogant, presumptuous, moronic statement that was. I have been living in the “real world” for 52 years as a member of the working class. I have worked, except for a few years when my husband supported us solely when my son was a very small child, almost my entire adult life. I have paid my share of taxes in return for the safety, security and public works the “common wealth” provides for the good of my community, state and country. I have lived through both good times and bad, depending upon the unpredictable turns life sometimes takes. I know exactly what it is to live paycheck to paycheck, stressed and worrying about that one unexpected expense or setback that could put my entire family out on the street. I know exactly what it’s like to try to stretch a one person food budget to meet the needs of a three person household, one of them being a child. I have experienced both heart rending tragedy and heart lifting joy in my real world existence. And I have survived. So save your arrogant offer of pity. It’s neither needed, nor wanted.
One day, when it all goes to hades in a handbag, you'll have to rely on us redneck, throwback, hillbilly, gun-toting conservatives for your safety and for your supplies. You won't know how to fend for yourself because you've grown so accustomed to someone providing for you.
Let me fill you in on a little more of the history of my family. My paternal ancestors were among the first group of settlers to come through the Cumberland Gap. They settled in the hills of Kentucky. One of my ancestors, Captain Sylvester Isaacs, not only served in the civil war, he later became a judge. My father’s family hails from Owsley County. And there his nuclear family stayed until half of the twelve children (born at home) were grown, and then they moved to Louisville. That makes me a first generation, direct descendent of an actual hillbilly. The genuine article – not some hillbilly/cowboy wannabe puffed up poser. And I grew up in one of the most redneck areas in Louisville – the south end, right on the line between Shively and Pleasure Ridge. You simply can’t get more redneck than that. And I’m pretty sure I’ve given more than enough evidence by now to prove that I’m more than capable of fending and providing for myself. So, once again, your faith in your ability to intuitively “know” me has been seriously misplaced.
The sad truth is that we won't begrudge helping you, because that's the kind of people we are. Bet you can't say the same.
The sad truth is that I know exactly “the kind of people you are” because you’ve stated it clearly in a post calling for ruining the lives of people you have political disagreements with and fantasizing about their death. So don’t try to sell yourself as a model of charity and humanity now. And I don’t think you should be placing any bets about knowing the character of others anymore. You’ve already gambled away any credibility you may have formerly had in that regard by arrogantly placing all your marbles on the bet that you somehow knew all about what kind of person I am by virtue of reading nothing more than a single forum post I made.
Good God! These people might be talking revolution! Where could that possibly end!
And pointing to the bad behavior of a few tea party types then generalizing that to the entire bunch is the same as picking out the least savory members of any group and attributing their characteristics to all members of the group. It is stereotyping, generalizing and in the same league as racism and sexism.
We all know how classy it is to throw in the Nazi references.
There have been more of these “isolated incidents” of “bad behavior” and if you follow the news you already know about them. It’s escalating. Tell me, in your opinion, how many “isolated incidents” of “bad behavior” does it take to become a pattern? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? Until someone gets hurt? Until someone gets killed? I think the difference between you and me is that you are willing to ignore or dismiss these “isolated incidents” of “bad behavior” until a real tragedy occurs. I, on the other hand, want to nip it in the bud BEFORE a real tragedy occurs. And though I agree that the Nazi reference is ridiculously overused, there are actually those rare times when the comparison is valid. Windows were smashed in America by thugs to intimidate people for political purposes. Windows were smashed in Nazi Germany by thugs to intimidate people for political purposes. Please point out to me where I’m mistaken in considering those two incidents to be similar, and similarly alarming. And please inform me as to which type of “ist” it makes me to see this pattern, be alarmed by it, and point it out. As far as me not being “classy” well, I’m really not concerned about anyone else’s opinion about that. I do and say what I think is right and let the chips fall where they may, whether it makes me appear to be “classy” or not.
You can't blame people for being angry at this socialist / communist power grab that is seen by many as illegal and unconstitutional. People are upset and they are well within their rights to talk about it. You can't simply dismiss the sentiment as right wing extremism, we even see numerous states now filing law suits about this legislation. The concern is real and we better be talking about it unless we really want to see the country fail.
Interesting attempt at censorship though..
Horse hockey. You have no interest in “talking” about your “concern.” That is clearly evidenced by your consistent use of overblown, insulting, hyperbolic rhetoric, calling people communist, socialist, marxist, etc., etc, etc, ad nauseum, because you’re angry that the democrats (who are, and always have been – surprise, surprise – liberal) have now been voted into the majority. I remember all the talk about fascism during the Bush administration and how we would all end up incarcerated in FEMA camps (ironically, that bit of paranoid fear mongering has been conveniently switched over and assigned to Obama now that he’s president – kinda makes you wonder if someone is profiting from keeping irrational fear at a fever pitch, doesn’t it?). I was worried about things like the Patriot Act, torture, government eavesdropping, etc., as well. But you know what? The country survived a two term administration of what I consider to be the radical right wing in power. And it will also survive a one or two term administration of what you consider to be the radical left wing in power. As far as the state lawsuits, some governors have already kicked their overzealous right wing AGs to the curb on that. And so what if lawsuits are filed? The courts will decide if the legislation has legal legs to stand on or not. If not, it won’t stand. If it does, it will stand – no matter how much you pull your hair, rend your clothes, gnash your teeth and scream socialism, communism, marxism, etc., etc., etc. If you don’t like the direction the country is going in, then you should work hard to field good candidates, sell the voters on your platform and win elections. Simple as that.
What I find interesting is that you are STILL using the same flip line, “interesting attempt at censorship,” as a mechanism to defend some particularly obnoxious behavior from criticism and rebuke because it’s coming from someone who has the same ideological beliefs as you. Cliché though it may be, it’s not censorship to prohibit people from yelling “fire” in a crowded theater or “Hi Jack” in an airport terminal. It’s civic responsibility in the interest of public safety. Just like calling for an end to public urgings to do violence and injury to political opponents is in the interest of public safety. Honestly, if you can’t understand that, well, either you’re being intellectually dishonest or you’re intellectually challenged. Personally, I don’t believe that you are intellectually challenged.
Well kids, it’s been a fun, but tiring game of hardball and we’ve come to the end of the last inning. This old lady is pooped! But before I retire, I’d like to address some other people who visit this forum. Have you felt bullied here? Shouted down, personally insulted by a “wolf pack” for giving your opinion about something on what is supposed to be a community forum where all are supposed to be welcome and encouraged to engage in civil debate? Has it soured you to the point that you’ve just stopped commenting? Or have you hesitated to ever comment at all because you’ve seen others being savaged by the “wolf pack?” Well guys, here’s your chance to step up to the plate and hit one outta the park by making your feelings known and letting the administrators of the forum know that there really is a problem with bullying here. Simply respond “ditto” to this post - sort of a “Reverse Rush.” Things may not change, but at least you will have stood up to the bullies, and, believe me, it’s a good feeling to finally stand up to a bully. And if I only get a few dittos, or even none at all, you know what I’m going to do? Accept it. That’s right, I’ll just accept that the majority disagrees with me, go about my business and never make a peep about it again. I won’t holler, whine, or start a covert campaign to harass people I consider to be my enemies by making a gazillion reports to the moderators about them. I’ll just zip my lip, accept that that’s just the way it is around here, and move on. Promise.
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